After a woman was found dead in a Costco parking lot on June 16 and police discussed the possibility of a dog attack-related fatality, readers expressed concerns about the prevalence of dog bite-related attacks and packs of dogs roaming around Bakersfield. 

Despite public fear of dog attacks and criticism of bully breeds, the data doesn't lie: dog bite-related fatalities are not that common. Packs of dogs are not roaming the streets of Bakersfield — if anything, one or two stray dogs spotted running around are reported to Bakersfield Animal Control, but not packs of dogs. 

The cause of death of the woman who was reportedly attacked by dogs is still unknown. It's not certain that her death was even caused by a dog attack — it could have been many other things, Bakersfield Police said. 

Despite that, one of the three dogs apparently involved in the attack has already been euthanized. The other two are expected to be put down as well, though it is still unknown whether they had any involvement in the woman's death. 

"Once they deem an animal is property of the shelter, the shelter can do whatever they deem fit," said Sundee Martineau, co-founder of Bakersfield Boxers & Bullies Rescue.

cute pit

Pictured above is a pit bull rescued by the Bakersfield Boxers and Bullies Rescue, a nonprofit organization that educates and fosters bully breeds for adoption.

According to the National Canine Research Council, dog bite-related deaths are "exceedingly rare" —  in 2017, there were only 40 verified deaths caused by dog bites in the U.S. Janis Bradley, Director of Communications & Publications at the Council, said that deaths caused by actual dog bites are "extremely, extremely rare." 

Comparably, 970 people died in unintentional pedestrian accidents in 2017, and 19,510 people were murdered. People were 488 times more likely to be murdered than to be bit to death by a dog, according to the council. 

"You can’t really make a visual to show how rare that is," Bradley said. "It’s roughly comparable, though a bit lower, than the amount of people being struck by lightening."

But that's the reason dog bite-related deaths are talked about so much when it does happen — people don't necessarily associate death with dogs, so when it happens, it draws attention, Bradley said.

"Nobody’s ever known anybody who’s died from being bitten by dogs," Bradley said. "Everybody knows somebody who’s died of cancer or died from a car wreck."

According to BPD, there were three dogs involved in last week's attack. Two pit bulls, and one mixed breed. The fear of pit bulls and attacks by the breed is common. Pit bull bans have even been called for in many states by advocates who claim pit bulls are naturally aggressive and dangerous. But the correlation between breeds and dog attacks is just not based in any data, Bradley said. 

"Whether people like it or not, the pit bull breed is one of America’s favorite dogs," Martineau said, adding that people in Kern County especially like pit bulls — and breed them a lot. "I just think those dogs, had they been human aggressive, it would have been an instant issue. They would have ran to the first person right away."

A 2013 study published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association about dog bite-related deaths in the U.S. from 2000 to 2009 — which was later updated to include data up until 2015 — showed that there is no correlation between dog breed and dog attacks.

Dogs Bite, an organization that is dedicated to preventing serious dog attacks, claims that breed is one of the factors in fatalities caused by dogs. According to Colleen Lynn, spokesperson for Dogs Bite, the organization's "research and data shows that this remains true more than ever today."

"A number of factors are involved in a fatal dog mauling," Lynn said. "Breed is one of these factors, as is the victim’s age, and a host of others," including the gender of the dog and the dog's violent history.

The organization looks at news reports, photographs and police reports about the alleged dog attack. Based on their research, pit bulls make up 66 percent of dog bite-related fatalities from 2005 to 2018. 

But Bradley disagrees.

"If there was going to be evidence (on breed correlation) anywhere, it would be in dog bite fatality," Bradley said.  

But there isn't, because "visual breed identification is notoriously unreliable," Bradley said. These are typically made from law enforcement, bystanders or animal control, and "people just aren't good" at making those identifications.

Martineau said the dogs involved probably weren't even pit bulls, but they were labeled as so. 

"The prejudice that's looming over the breed is causing hundreds of dogs to die every month," Martineau said.

According to that 2013 study, there were seven controllable factors present in all dog bite-related fatalities. These included: 

  • no able-bodied person being present to intervene with a dog bite
  • the victim having no familiar relationship with the dog 
  • the dog owner failing to neuter or spay the dog
  • a victim’s compromised ability, whether based on age or physical condition, to manage their interactions with the dog
  • the owner keeping the dog as a resident dog, rather than as a family pet; this includes keeping a pet on a chain outside or keeping a dog locked in a basement
  • the owner’s prior mismanagement of the dog
  • the owner’s abuse or neglect of the dog

All of these circumstances observed in the 2013 study show preventative factors, Bradley said, adding that there are millions of dogs in the country who live under these types of conditions every day and don’t kill anybody.

"As an owner, we have a responsibility to protect our dogs from causing damage to others," Martineau said. "It’s a responsibility, just like our kids can’t run around and set things on fire, we have to teach our dogs right from wrong in a loving and responsible way."

"When you see a cloud in the sky, do you hide in the house all day because you think you’re going to be struck by lightening? No, you really don’t," Bradley said. "There are 80 plus million of them, and they like us. Otherwise there wouldn’t be 80 plus million of them. We wouldn’t keep them around."

Maureen Strode can be reached at (661)395-7491. You can follow her on Twitter @maureenstrode. 

 

(41) comments

kellyb

What sources would be accepted? Would actual news channel reports be accepted? Maybe talking to an attack victim? cuz I can cite local & all 50 states for attacks and I am an attack victim as well as a Pit Owner & I will throw down with anyone who says its "rare" to be attacked or killed by a pit or other mastiff dog. I can cite 5 deaths in the last 3 years here in OKC by Pits and a Fukton of attacks including mine & my sons in the same time frame- in one instance the same dogs that attacked a plumber went on to take a womans arm & nose off a few months later in a 45 minute attack to a man on trial for murder of a 78? year old woman in the street by his 2 pits... No one is making these stories up they are real as they come & minimizing the victims & comparing attacks to suicides, muggings & other crimes is the argument of an adolescent as well as a real douche bag move.

yorkies2014

Bakofolks...calm down....their pitbulls.....not Antifa.....I bet the dog owners hope that homeless woman never gets identified...

Fram Smith

Another place people may want to go to learn about irresponsible dog owners is to talk to members of the law enforcement community. In particular , probation officers who deal with people who can no longer legally own firearms , but can own a pack of pibull attack and kill dogs. I invite BakoTrumaDoctor to walk in from of any member of the law enforcement community attempting to serve a warrent on a criminal who has violated the terms of their release. , and uses vicious animals as a substitute for firearms.

Concerned Citizen of Bakersfield

Good work by dogs thinning out the herd of the walking dead homeless roaming the streets

Harve Morgan

This Bradley person doesn't have a clue. The courts have even ruled that a person of ordinary intelligence knows what a pit bull looks like. The ASPCA even tried to back up this myth at a shelter but the shelter staff correctly identified a pit bull 96% of the time. Identification is made by animal control, vets, OWNERS, and it appears the pit community wants you to think that no one can identify a pit bull. If no one can, then how can they identify a pit bull to support it? These people support the pit bulls, not you or the safety of your family. They get major donations from the pit community to continue to lie to people about the breed. This breed was never meant to be a pet, all the designers of the breed say that. But the AVMA, an organization dedicated to making money for their members, realizes the money making pit bulls and therefore has to support their members making money from the breed by trying to save other beloved pets that the breed attacks daily, most die. The AVMA is not in the business of tracking fatalities, that is second and third hand info for them. To put it bluntly, the AVMA is not on the side of public safety.

bachaus

You again Harve how much longer are you going to post your breed discrimination bias and fear mongering? I keep proving you're a LIAR misrepresenting the truth nothing but a tinfoil hat wearing kool-aid drinker--

bachaus

A court ruled that means ONE judge found that the information presented by a lawyer was sufficient doesn't make your claim accurate -- Epic fail Studies show that shelters identify the main breed only 35% This isn’t the first time studies have pointed toward the failings of visual breed identification. The National Canine Research Council notes that such analysis is “very often inaccurate,” as even first generation mixed breeds look dramatically different than their parents. What’s perhaps more damning is that those performing visual breed identifications rarely arrive at a consensus, with half of participants in a 2013 study agreeing on a pup’s dominant breed just 35 percent of the time." BY THE WAY PIT BULL ISN'T A BREED HOW MANY TIMES MUST I TELL YOU THIS? SERIOUSLY THE TINFOIL HAT HAS CAUSED HYPOXIA Hilarious you cite vets are credible in breed identification and in the same breath cite that the AVMA are pit propagandist -- Funny how anytime it serves your purpose the source is credible and anytime it contradicts you position is propaganda I truly am tired seeing you misleading information and utter lies -- By the way how you do you like all the repeals to BSL lately ?? LOL You've lost the battle and the war pit hater -- Delaware has become the 21st state to outlaw it along with just a few places that have repealed LOL 5/30/2019 Wyandotte County KS repealed 30 year ban 5/30/2019 Kansas City KS A decision has been made to repeal a ban that has been in place for 29 years. 5/01/2019 Washington becomes the 22nd state to outlaw BSL 5/2019 Liberty MO 5/2019 Willoughby Hills, Ohio. 1/2019 Garfield Heights Ohio repealed ban 12/2018 Rocky River, Ohio repealed ban 8/2018 Yakima, Wa repealed 30 year ban 8/2017. Chateauguay QC 30 year ban 8/2018. Montreal QC 8/2018 Springfield, Missouri residents voted against ban 7/8/2018 Springfield, Missouri 5/2018 Pratt, Kansas repealed ban 5/2018 Castle Rock, Colorado repealed ban 4/2018 Eudora, Kansas repealed 10 year old ban 4/2018 Beloit, Kansas repealed 4/2018 Marceline, Mo repealed ban 3/2018.Lakewood, Ohio 3/2018 Anamosa, Iowa removes ban 3/2018 Ironton, Mo. removes ban 3/2018 Reynoldsburg, Ohio repeals ban 1/2018 Burden, Kansas lifts ban 1/2018 Libby, Montana 11/2017 Prince George, BC Canada city council voted to stop classifying pit bulls and other bully breeds as "dangerous" and instead focus on the behaviour of individual dogs, as part of new rules around animal ownership in the city. 8/2017 Beaver Dam, Ky.removed ban 7/2017 South Milwaukee, Wisconsin removed ban 6/2017 Delaware Governor John Carney (D) signed House Bill 13, which is intended to protect the rights of responsible Delaware dog owners by prohibiting any dog from being declared “potentially dangerous” or “dangerous” under state law simply based on the dog’s breed. The bill would also prohibit municipalities from enacting laws or regulations based on a dog’s breed. 5/2017 Tamarac, Fla removed ban 5/2017 The County of Grande Prairie (Canada) removes breed specific references and restricted breeds from Animal Control Bylaw 5/2017 Payette, Idaho removed ban 3/2017 Florissant, Mo removed ban 1/2017 Purdy, Mo. removed ban 11/2017 Mansfield, Ohio 1/26/2015 Roeland Park, KS repealed BSL 11/18/2014 - Spring Hill Kansas has repealed their ban on "pit bull dogs." The old law, which was passed in 2008 2/3/2014 Garden City repealed 1/ 14/2014 Canton Township (MI) repeals breed-specific vicious dog ordinance 1/13 2014 Bonner Springs suburb of Kansas ... 2014 Fairway KS

Belladonna

When I saw this "editorial" written by Maureen Strode leveraging this tragedy to exonerate canines in general and pit bulls in particular of dog attack fatalities I knew I had to write to clear up a few misconceptions. What this is about is not whether we should worry about "rare" occurrences of pit bull induced fatalities but whether we consider public safety as our highest community value -- the value that is the cornerstone of civilization. Without a commitment to public safety a society cannot ensure the welfare of all or even most of its citizens. Public safety needs to be consistent; it must be a mandate -- never a convenience. Now the problem I have here is that this author spends the entire article arguing for the entitlements of the pit bull dog phenotype -- a dog possessed of the extreme combat physicality of the Olde English Bulldogge with its hardware of a strongly muscled jaw supported by strong neck and shoulders with center of gravity pushed to the front attacking end, attributes that combined with the hardwiring of neurotypical matrix of the tenacious terrier make for a canine that despite its puppy dog face-licking charms has the low reactivity threshold to go instantly from face licking to face gripping (bulldog) and ripping (terrier) without noticible warning. She gives due diligence to the dangers of automobiles, lightning strikes, and murders but says the pitbull bite fatality by comparison is equivalent to a lightning strike. Nothing could be further from the truth. The other modes of death are safety failures that occur by using the tools of modern civilization (automobiles) which have a social benefit and are quickly recalled should they have an inherent design flaw which will cause tragedy and social breakdown, ...or like thunderstorms that are part of a natural system that we adapt to and take shelter from because this is the activity of the planet. Pit bulls have earned their dubious reputations and are not of nature but of the genetic manipulations of the dogmen for inherent "gameness". Not only are they not of nature"s free hand they have no value to society as the vehicle does whether we speak of car, bicycle, or horse-drawn carriage. The violence pit bulls do is daily...They destroy the lives of hundreds of people and many thousands of animals each year -- yes the human fatalities are the tip of the iceberg the maiming and disability they cause are enough without accounting for deaths to justify a recall of these canines. In a sense there is an informal recall of pit bulls...the bulk of them end up quietly dumped in shelters and there they would stay -- if the rescue community would stop recycling them with second chances to unsuspecting families that are put at risk for that destruction. This whole concept of retooling pit bulls completely undermines public safety for everyone including a woman short cutting through a business complex. There is no reason to own a pit bull or promote pit bulls that would justify the death of that woman. As citizens and neighbors society does not have a prayer of working if we elevate these pit bulls above even the least of our human kind. To say pit bulls destroy our social contract with each other is an understatement so I cannot help but be disturbed by the fact that this writer is using this tragedy to exonerate them. But I suppose it is not hard to know where her priorities lie: After all the writer supports pit bull rescue and rehoming and has friends who look to her to write these pit bull supportive "editorials" rather than argue for public safety. For instance the writer had every opportunity to provide you with this make your own mind up and did not: https://www.fatalpitbullattacks.com

bachaus

What utter tripe the prototypical characteristics of four distinct breeds and a multitude of others that ate misidentified have little bearing - For Pit type dogs place seventh in bite strength and no breed has ever been bred to be human aggressive it seems you missed the point of rarity and human onus glazing over those facts to push your pit hate agenda As far as bred to be animal aggressive and gameness -- The APBT dog you are obviously referring to not the other breeds like staffies Am staffs and staffordshire bulls are not breed for gameness and the gameness argument can be discredited by the 47 of 51 Vick dogs, dogs who actually were bred for gameness not only bred but trained not only trained but who fought to survive killing their canine opponents -- Have lived in Society without incident with animals and children garnering good canine awards and even becoming therapy dogs -- So tell me more about your unscientific claims about genetics and aggression! LOL The violence pit bulls do daily? Citing who? Clifton of 24/7 who was proven in court to misrepresent his stats ?? LOL Colleen lynn of DBO whose page is riddled with inaccuracies? Using news reports as her one and only source of info? Never has she independently verified the breed ! Funny how Canada who has the same proportion of pit type dogs and who imports a majority from USA shelters fails to support these claims of the 44 deaths in 34 years only 4 deaths have been attributed to breeds with similar phenotypic characteristics as those coined by sensationalized news media as pit bulls the number one killer are huskies followed by mixed breeds on reserves How is that these so called killers cross an imaginary line and are now safe companions? Retooling LOL -- Hilarious -- Counter -- Vicktory dogs ! No reason to have a pit type dog -? 6 million pit type dogs a mere 4.3 e-6% are involved in egregious acts that's 0.0000043% you have a 1 in 10.6 Million chance of dying by all dog breeds you have a 1 in 645 chance of dying in vehicle yet you get into one every day! Speaking of why would you ever --- Great Pyrenees, Collies,Beagles, Jack Russell Terriers, Dogo's, Gerberian Shepsky's, Dachshunds, Golden Retrievers, German Sheprador, German Sheprador's, Saint Bernards, Alaskan Malamutes, Bull Dogs, Cane Corso's, Doberman Pinschers, Great Danes, Australian Cattle Dog (38 egregious bodily harms and a death) Labrador Retriever, Cocker Spaniel ,Chows, Boxers, Akita's, Siberian huskies, German Shepherds, and Rotties have all been responsible for human deaths ? Considering that there are 4.5 million dog bites a year and 900,000 dog bites require medical attention 27,000 require reconstructive surgery Stop being a puppet to sensationalized news accounts that profit from misinformation and do some actual research - The writer priorities lie in actual facts unlike your pit hate propaganda Here are some of the errors in your pit hate kool aid drinking FPB page Rylee Dodge #36 who Lynn cites KSWO as a source and I quote " bulldog mixed-breed." http://www(dot) kswo (dot) com/story/37264092/duncan-girl-killed-in-dog-attack #35 David Brown David ended up passing away. The Daviess County Coroner’s report shows that he suffered a cardiac arrest that was complicated by the dog attack. Hence not a fatality by Dog Attack #279 James Chapple: Died of hypertensive issues and arthrosclertic heart disease 4 months after recovering from dog attack. #129 Rita Pepe: died of kidney failure, #138 Nancy Newberry: died of heart disease Just some of the lies your pit hate page promotes -- But hey drink up the kool -aid and tighten down that tinfoil hat we wouldn't want actually facts to cloud your lack of research and common sense LOL I love pit haters they never actually fact check their information!

RaggMopp58

Well written and well researched article! It is truly a shame that the dog-hating members of dogsbitedotorg have seen fit to share this link on their pages. All the mean-spirited comments are from haters and/or ambulance chasers. Once again: GOOD JOB!

BakoTraumaDoctor

Very well written article. All points made are backed up with facts and statistics and the article is very eloquently written. I have written/read many scientific papers in my time, which are heavily scrutinized for accuracy, and this reads like one of those research papers. In my own experience dealing with dog bites in the emergency room, there is always some provoking factor that leads to injuries to humans, they don't just spontaneously attack. In fact, neither myself nor my colleges have seen a patient who had sustained an injury from a canine that wasn't provoked. From what myself and my peers who all have extensive experience with very similar cases to this can gather from publicly available sources, the woman in question was almost certainly deceased before encountering any type of contact with the dogs. It's a shame that those with no professional experience are attacking the author of this wonderful article, shame on them!

RaggMopp58

Exactly!

Attorney Kenneth M. Phillips

The writer of this article is completely misinformed. Pit bulls are disliked by most Americans. Most people correctly believe this type of dog is dangerous. At any one time, 40% of all pit bulls in the USA are up for sale or adoption. They make up a third of the animals in our animal shelters. They bite, disfigure, disable and kill more humans than other types of dog. When pit bulls attack people, their victims usually are their owners, their owners' children and their owners' parents. They kill more children than any other type of dog. They are the #1 killers of other people's pets, responsible for killing 90% of all the dogs, cats and horses killed by dogs. The writer of this article wants readers to shrug off all the deaths, all the suffering, all the costs caused by this type of dog. We cannot, we must not. There is absolutely no reason to permit pit bulls to live among us, and and every reason to forbid their presence. The message should be, "Do Not Adopt a Pit Bull!" (The studies supporting all of the statements in this comment are cited with links at Pit Bulls: Facts and Figures, dogbitelaw.com/u36p.)

BakoTraumaDoctor

Keep in mind, the website Kenneth is referencing here is his own (Is that even allowed?). He is not a local attorney. His source links back to his own website where this snake oil salesman posts sensationalized claims about dogs and dog attacks in an effort to gain clients for potential law suits. He is a TV attorney who makes no verifiable claims and instead is trying to push a false narrative for his own benefit.

RaggMopp58

True -- he refers to hisown blogs/writings frequently. Probably to drum up more business?

bachaus

Hear Hear -- nothing but a ambulance chaser! Did you see his wanna be super bowl commercial - spreading lies and misinformation? OMG

bachaus

Hear Hear -- nothing but a ambulance chaser! Did you see his wanna be super bowl commercial - spreading lies and misinformation? OMG

RaggMopp58

#1) Most Americans DO NOT dislike pit bulls, despite attempts to sow hatred by certain groups. #2) This type of dog is not inherently dangerous: although strong and to some people "scary-looking", not dangerous. #3) No agency has, or is capable to tracking animal on animal attacks and any figures quoted stating stastics are obviously fiction. #4) Breed Specific legislation is subjective, difficult and expensive to enforce and punishes good dog owners, rather than focusing on backyard breeders and/or dog fighters #5) The message is : there are loving bully breed dogs looking for homes in shelters throughout America. Go meet one, fall in love and bring them home. You won't regret it.

bachaus

The only one misinformed is you -- Disliked by most Americans you use language like that in court? You must lose often -- There are 6 million pit type dogs in America petitions that support ending BSL in places garner 500K signatures like the petition that repealed BSL in Montreal - Here are some of the repeals against breed specific legislation Delaware has become the 21st state to outlaw it along with just a few places that have repealed LOL 5/30/2019 Wyandotte County KS repealed 30 year ban 5/30/2019 Kansas City KS A decision has been made to repeal a ban that has been in place for 29 years. 5/01/2019 Washington becomes the 22nd state to outlaw BSL 5/2019 Liberty MO 5/2019 Willoughby Hills, Ohio. 1/2019 Garfield Heights Ohio repealed ban 12/2018 Rocky River, Ohio repealed ban 8/2018 Yakima, Wa repealed 30 year ban 8/2017. Chateauguay QC 30 year ban 8/2018. Montreal QC 8/2018 Springfield, Missouri residents voted against ban 7/8/2018 Springfield, Missouri 5/2018 Pratt, Kansas repealed ban 5/2018 Castle Rock, Colorado repealed ban 4/2018 Eudora, Kansas repealed 10 year old ban 4/2018 Beloit, Kansas repealed 4/2018 Marceline, Mo repealed ban 3/2018.Lakewood, Ohio 3/2018 Anamosa, Iowa removes ban 3/2018 Ironton, Mo. removes ban 3/2018 Reynoldsburg, Ohio repeals ban 1/2018 Burden, Kansas lifts ban 1/2018 Libby, Montana 11/2017 Prince George, BC Canada city council voted to stop classifying pit bulls and other bully breeds as "dangerous" and instead focus on the behaviour of individual dogs, as part of new rules around animal ownership in the city. 8/2017 Beaver Dam, Ky.removed ban 7/2017 South Milwaukee, Wisconsin removed ban 6/2017 Delaware Governor John Carney (D) signed House Bill 13, which is intended to protect the rights of responsible Delaware dog owners by prohibiting any dog from being declared “potentially dangerous” or “dangerous” under state law simply based on the dog’s breed. The bill would also prohibit municipalities from enacting laws or regulations based on a dog’s breed. 5/2017 Tamarac, Fla removed ban 5/2017 The County of Grande Prairie (Canada) removes breed specific references and restricted breeds from Animal Control Bylaw 5/2017 Payette, Idaho removed ban 3/2017 Florissant, Mo removed ban 1/2017 Purdy, Mo. removed ban 11/2017 Mansfield, Ohio 1/26/2015 Roeland Park, KS repealed BSL 11/18/2014 - Spring Hill Kansas has repealed their ban on "pit bull dogs." The old law, which was passed in 2008 2/3/2014 Garden City repealed 1/ 14/2014 Canton Township (MI) repeals breed-specific vicious dog ordinance 1/13 2014 Bonner Springs suburb of Kansas ... 2014 Fairway KS For a group of breeds APBT, staffie, staffie bull terrier and AM Staffs since pit bull is not a breed you uninformed dullard it seems that society disagrees with your erroneous claim! 40%? Cite !!! Make up 33% of shelters you mean the same shelters that misidentify the main breed 65%? smithsonianmag(dot)com/smart-news/genetic-testing-shows-animal-shelters-often-misidentify-dogs-breeds-180970136/ Kill more humans citing who pit hate progandansist like Clifton of 24/7 who lost in court where a journalist proved that the stats like all stats from these pit haters are "FAR FROM THE TRUTH" citing "Review by the Ombudsman, CBC/Radio-Canada French Services, of a complaint regarding an article by Bouchra Ouatik published on ICI Radio- Canada.ca on September 9, 2016, entitled Pitbulls : des données non scientifiques fréquemment citées par les médias" 90% cite! truly for a lawyer you are spewing nothing but rhetoric! Dog bite Law -- OMFG ambulance chancers who profit from irresponsible people who allowed their dog to fail -- BTW I challenged them to a debate about their claims they blocked me -- Speaking of deaths let's look at all the breeds that have killed -- and the stats of actual dog bites maulings and reconstructive surgeries -- Great Pyrenees, Collies,Beagles, Jack Russell Terriers, Dogo's, Gerberian Shepsky's, Dachshunds, Golden Retrievers, German Sheprador, German Sheprador's, Saint Bernards, Alaskan Malamutes, Bull Dogs, Cane Corso's, Doberman Pinschers, Great Danes, Australian Cattle Dog (38 egregious bodily harms and a death) Labrador Retriever, Cocker Spaniel ,Chows, Boxers, Akita's, Siberian huskies, German Shepherds, and Rotties have all been responsible for human deaths ? Considering that there are 4.5 million dog bites a year and 900,000 dog bites require medical attention 27,000 require reconstructive surgery America has a responsible guardianship issue -- You like DBL are nothing but misinformed lemmings doing ZERO research taking pit haters pages as actual facts when they are nothing but propaganda

bachaus

Lookie lookie lookie it's you -- The owner of the ambulance chasing firm citing your own company and facts Here is my proof that when you cite medical pages -- surgeons are writing a level 4 peer review which in publications are nothing but OPINION Retrospective studies are JUNK science - here I'll use Golinko's own words in his 1616 study of dog attacks to discredit your so called facts - -And I quote "Biases and limitations Because this was a retrospective review of triage and medical record data, certain variables such as breed could not be independently verified. There may be reporting BIAS for typically "bitting breeds such as pit bulls" Another source of error is in the city of the bite because data recorded where the bite took place may not necessarily be where the animal normally resides" "The author acknowledges that etiology of a dog bite is complex and multifactorial, depending not only on the canines characteristics, but also on owner training, child behavior, and the specific conditions when the bite occurred" If you want me to discredit other types of info I'd be glad to show why you are an ambulance chaser and posting nothing but pit hate rhetoric

Boris25

If you are going to write an article at least get your facts and statistics correct. Dog bites, those requiring hospitalization, statistics by breed 1982-2014 Rank #1. Breed of dog: Pitbull, Number of attacks: 3397 Rank: #2. Breed of dog: Rottweiler , Number of attacks: 535 Rank: #3. Breed of dog: German Shepard, Number of attacks 113 36 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2018. Pit bulls contributed to 72% (26) of these deaths. Pitbulls make up about 7% of the total U.S. dog population. During the 14 year period 2005-2018, canines killed 471 Americans. Pitbulls (311), contributed to 67% (358) of these deaths. 33 different dog breeds contributed to the remaining fatal dog attacks. So to say that Pitbulls aren't the "main culprits" is neither true nor anywhere close to being accurate.

BakoTraumaDoctor

Boris, you mention your fetish for accurate facts and statistics. Every claim that the author has made has a linked and verifiable source. You post contradictory information, and yet you provide no source. Please refrain from being a hypocrite and provide information to back up your claims.

Boris25

Gee, BakoTraumaDoctor, I am writing this very slowly so you might understand. You are a perfect example of someone who supposedly has an advanced degree but isn’t very smart. You work as an ER doctor, you know the running joke, ER stands for “everybody is reta…ed”. You say I have a “fetish” for statistics, I neither have a sexual fixation nor do I have an obsession with a non-sexual object. All I ask is, base your article on facts not opinions. The source of my information is DogsBite.org. as well as the CDC. You do know what is CDC is, don’t you? Please in your infinite wisdom point out where I contradict myself.

bachaus

You cite DBO and Colleen Lynn LOL ROFLMAO Here are just some of the fake claims using her own citations no less LOL Rylee Dodge who Lynn cites KSWO as a source and I quote " bulldog mixed-breed." http://www(dot) kswo (dot) com/story/37264092/duncan-girl-killed-in-dog-attack David brown David ended up passing away. The Daviess County Coroner’s report shows that he suffered a cardiac arrest that was complicated by the dog attack. James Chapple: Died of hypertensive issues and arthrosclertic heart disease 4 months after recovering from dog attack. Rita Pepe: died of kidney failure, Nancy Newberry: died of heart disease, Marilyn Stanleys: injuries cause by boyfriend scalping her with a knife, not dog attack. But hey if you want to take the facts of some idiot who was too stupid to pass a dog from behind on the owners side rather than the dogs side startling it and then blaming all dogs who look like that dog for the next decade plus because she's a pit hating nut then so be it yet another person who has failed to debate me in an open forum and chooses to block because I prove her page to be nothing but pit hate propaganda

bachaus

You mean this CDC ?? LOL "“A CDC study on fatal dog bites lists the breeds involved in fatal attacks over 20 years (Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998). [This study] does not identify specific breeds that are most likely to bite or kill, and thus is not appropriate for policy-making decisions related to the topic. Each year, 4.7 million Americans are bitten by dogs. These bites result in approximately 16 fatalities; about 0.0002 percent of the total number of people bitten. These relatively few fatalities offer the only available information about breeds involved in dog bites. There is currently no accurate way to identify the number of dogs of a particular breed, and consequently no measure to determine which breeds are more likely to bite or kill.”

bachaus

He posted a dog bite law page maxlawsc(dot)com/dog-bite-statistics/ who cites Clifton of 24/7 who lost in court because his stats are "FAR FROM THE TRUTH" direct quote - you can read the whole case via "Review by the Ombudsman, CBC/Radio-Canada French Services, of a complaint regarding an article by Bouchra Ouatik published on ICI Radio- Canada.ca on September 9, 2016, entitled Pitbulls : des données non scientifiques fréquemment citées par les médias" Anyone who cites 24/7 for their STATS supporting their position is an idiot

bachaus

ROFLMAO --- You cited maxlawsc(dot)com/dog-bite-statistics/ who cited Clifton of 24/7 for statistics If I couldn't laugh harder -- OMG Clifton of 24/7 lost in court his stats as stated in court documents is FAR FROM THE TRUTH Look for yourself Review by the Ombudsman, CBC/Radio-Canada French Services, of a complaint regarding an article by Bouchra Ouatik published on ICI Radio- Canada.ca on September 9, 2016, entitled Pitbulls : des données non scientifiques fréquemment citées par les médias" Spin some more fake stats so I can show the world just how much pit haters lie and spread misinformation --

raskolnikov

Over the last 7 years, pit bulls have killed 215 Americans. All other breeds combined have killed 62. So in case it wasn't clear, pit bulls are most certainly the main culprit, killing more than 3 times as many Americans as all other breeds combined.

bachaus

Utter Tripe -- Cite you pit hating source and I'll show you why your comment is nothing but a LIE

Fram Smith

In the original Point Break movie, there is a scene where Anthony Kiedis of the Red Hot Chili Peppers explains to Keanu Reeves that he is just going to kick his backside , because talking to him would be a waste of time. The Maureen Strode's of the world just do not understand until they or someone they love is at the receiving end of one of these wild dog packs , during a early morning jog. Until we clear out the wild dog packs that Maureen Strode says do not exist , ( is this lady legally blind or a shutin) , go through the county CCW training. In open carry states , wild dogs are commonly shot. I will not be victimized by the ignorance of the Maureen Strode's of the world. And thanks to CCW , anyone willing to become certified ; well you too can jog again without fear. It is sad that it has come to this. This lady is a spokesperson for irresponsible dog ownship.

BakoTraumaDoctor

You seem to miss the point of the article entirely and just want to discuss your love of firearms and the second amendment. Do you commonly discharge your weapon on city sidewalks every time a dog comes near you? You certainly make it sound like a common part of your life. That is not only very dangerous, it is also a felony offense. You sound like a spokesperson for irresponsible gun ownership.

bachaus

The problem is not breeds nor is it dogs or ownership it's the failure of communities to have responsible ownership laws like leash laws and enforce them with server penalties -- If you want safe communities then enact the number one animal control model in North America The Calgary Model created by Bill Bruce and supported around the world as the effective way to limit canine human aggression

raskolnikov

An American is mauled to death by a pit bull every 12 days or so. I'd say that's far too common. And pit bulls are responsible for the vast majority of those attacks - in addition to 600 or so maiming or disfiguring attacks every year. We have a pit bull problem. Denying it only makes you complicit.

bachaus

Again with your fake stats I know Trump has given you guidance if you say it enough it will make it true unfortunately that's not the case - Pages like 24/7 DBO and others are pit hate propaganda nothing more Hence the reason for all the repeals Delaware has become the 21st state to outlaw it along with just a few places that have repealed LOL 5/30/2019 Wyandotte County KS repealed 30 year ban 5/30/2019 Kansas City KS A decision has been made to repeal a ban that has been in place for 29 years. 5/01/2019 Washington becomes the 22nd state to outlaw BSL 5/2019 Liberty MO 5/2019 Willoughby Hills, Ohio. 1/2019 Garfield Heights Ohio repealed ban 12/2018 Rocky River, Ohio repealed ban 8/2018 Yakima, Wa repealed 30 year ban 8/2017. Chateauguay QC 30 year ban 8/2018. Montreal QC 8/2018 Springfield, Missouri residents voted against ban 7/8/2018 Springfield, Missouri 5/2018 Pratt, Kansas repealed ban 5/2018 Castle Rock, Colorado repealed ban 4/2018 Eudora, Kansas repealed 10 year old ban 4/2018 Beloit, Kansas repealed 4/2018 Marceline, Mo repealed ban 3/2018.Lakewood, Ohio 3/2018 Anamosa, Iowa removes ban 3/2018 Ironton, Mo. removes ban 3/2018 Reynoldsburg, Ohio repeals ban 1/2018 Burden, Kansas lifts ban 1/2018 Libby, Montana 11/2017 Prince George, BC Canada city council voted to stop classifying pit bulls and other bully breeds as "dangerous" and instead focus on the behaviour of individual dogs, as part of new rules around animal ownership in the city. 8/2017 Beaver Dam, Ky.removed ban 7/2017 South Milwaukee, Wisconsin removed ban 6/2017 Delaware Governor John Carney (D) signed House Bill 13, which is intended to protect the rights of responsible Delaware dog owners by prohibiting any dog from being declared “potentially dangerous” or “dangerous” under state law simply based on the dog’s breed. The bill would also prohibit municipalities from enacting laws or regulations based on a dog’s breed. 5/2017 Tamarac, Fla removed ban 5/2017 The County of Grande Prairie (Canada) removes breed specific references and restricted breeds from Animal Control Bylaw 5/2017 Payette, Idaho removed ban 3/2017 Florissant, Mo removed ban 1/2017 Purdy, Mo. removed ban 11/2017 Mansfield, Ohio 1/26/2015 Roeland Park, KS repealed BSL 11/18/2014 - Spring Hill Kansas has repealed their ban on "pit bull dogs." The old law, which was passed in 2008 2/3/2014 Garden City repealed 1/ 14/2014 Canton Township (MI) repeals breed-specific vicious dog ordinance 1/13 2014 Bonner Springs suburb of Kansas ... 2014 Fairway KS

Ed

“Packs of dogs are not roaming the streets of Bakersfield”. You obviously have not been on the east side of Bakersfield at night. Dogs are all over the place so many have been dumped or just not cared for. Pit bulls no, all breeds of dogs run the neighborhoods.

es1981

https://blog.dogsbite.org/ posts factual information, with photos, references, and often professional breed identification. In rebuttal, you offer: "Martineau said the dogs involved probably weren't even pit bulls..." and make that the headline.

bachaus

DBO and DBO blogs are nothing but misinformation and utter lies -- look above to my other citations proving them to be fabricators of the pit hate rhetoric Thanks for coming out to play try actually doing some research on the topic that way you won't look so stupid posting your closed minded biased comments

Carol Miller

I have a number that I consider significant, the number of Americans killed by pit bulls since the date of my own pit bull attack in 2007. Sadly, the number changes regularly but it stands at 280 today, 122 of them were children. In over 50% of the fatal maulings, the victim was the owner or a member of the owner's family. Less than half that number of Americans have been killed by dogs of all other breeds COMBINED in the same time frame. Fatal dog attacks are far from rare. Who can visually identify pit bulls? The courts agree that "a dog owner of ordinary intelligence" can identify a pit bull. Only pit bull advocates seem to have difficulty with this task.

bachaus

OMG where to start Anecdotal position since my dog attack! 280? Citing who? Pit hate propaganda pages that use news articles as their one and only source of information? Here I use a direct quote from the court case between a journalist and Clifton of 24/7 and I quote "("Media and police reports are almost always incomplete and there is no independent verification of the breed involved. These publications use those reports as if they were infallible.") Since ZERO independent verification is used by these pages the statistics that you and your ilk claim are nothing but utter fabrications to push a pit hate agenda - Who can visually identify a pit bull -?? First off it was one case where a judge sided with your position not courts !!! Secondly shelters and canine experts misidenty 65% of the time so take your nonsense about pit bull and your closed minded bigotry and shove it

bachaus

Funny how you and your pit hating ilk ignore all these breeds Great Pyrenees, Collies,Beagles, Jack Russell Terriers, Dogo's, Gerberian Shepsky's, Dachshunds, Golden Retrievers, German Sheprador, German Sheprador's, Saint Bernards, Alaskan Malamutes, Bull Dogs, Cane Corso's, Doberman Pinschers, Great Danes, Australian Cattle Dog (38 egregious bodily harms and a death) Labrador Retriever, Cocker Spaniel ,Chows, Boxers, Akita's, Siberian huskies, German Shepherds, and Rotties have all been responsible for human deaths ? Considering that there are 4.5 million dog bites a year and 900,000 dog bites require medical attention 27,000 require reconstructive surgery If you and your closed minded bigots actually wanted to make society safer you would implement that Calgary Model the number one animal control model in North America rather than not even having leash laws in some communities 86% of all fatalities are from unfixed canines 92% are male 25% of all fatalities are from unsocialized tethered canines same goes with dogs at large and dogs left unattended with small children all aspects of irresponsible owners when will you people put onus where it belongs on the other end of the leash or lack thereof and stop demonizing breeds based on phenotypic characteristics

Grandma Tam

A woman died, probably from horrific circumstances. It appeared she'd been mauled by the bite marks, injuries, and blood-coated dogs in her vicinity. This article is grotesquely insensitive, poorly-written (rambling, poorly punctuated, and nonconsecutive) to the point it became pointless. Okay, so the author likes Pit Bulls to the point she will handpick points of view that support her bias. She can even write a paper. However, this article is factually inaccurate, heavily biased, not news, and not news worthy. Of course, Bakersfield isn't teaming with packs of killer dogs hunting to maim and kill innocent people. However, one person tragically died and this should never be laughed at or mocked or ridiculed. This article is tasteless sensationalism and trash.

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