In an effort to meet new state coronavirus benchmarks required to reopen the economy, Kern County Supervisors approved a plan on Tuesday that rewards county employees for getting COVID-19 tests.

Any county employee who receives six coronavirus tests between Tuesday and the end of the year will receive eight hours of paid time off beginning Jan. 15. The county is encouraging other cities throughout Kern to adopt similar policies, which could result in a boost to local testing numbers.

The county pursued this new policy, which is estimated to cost $1.8 million in CARES Act funding and was added to Tuesday’s agenda as an emergency item, because Gov. Gavin Newsom recently announced a new coronavirus metric system by which counties that fall behind the statewide average for daily COVID-19 tests will be penalized with an artificially increased case rate.

Kern County already stands within the most restrictive of the state’s four tiers that classify how widespread COVID-19 is within counties. In order to move from the “widespread” tier to the less restrictive “substantial” tier, the county would need to reach less than 7 new coronavirus cases per day per 100,000 residents, with a less than 8 percent positivity rate, for two weeks.

On Tuesday, Public Health Services Director Matt Constantine revealed Kern actually met the state’s metrics, but had been penalized with an increased case rate because the county’s testing numbers were low.

“The important part of this is we have been making significant strides in our numbers,” he told supervisors. “They are coming down. If we didn’t have the adjustment, we’d actually be meeting tier 2, which would allow other businesses to open up.”

The state updates each county’s tier status every Tuesday. The latest update showed Kern County had a case rate of 6.7 new coronavirus cases each day per 100,000 residents, with a 7.1 percent positivity rate.

However, because the county tests 150 people per 100,000 residents each week compared to the state average of 216, the case rate was adjusted to 7.5.

Constantine said the county would need to test 607 more people per day in order to meet the state average, which he described as a significant challenge.

“We have a tremendous amount of capacity that is underutilized,” he said of the county’s testing ability. “Many of our testing sites are below 50 percent. Some are below 25 percent. So we have the capacity. We’ve taken away all the barriers. It’s free. You don’t have to have symptoms. We have 11 sites. We have now two mobile sites, we bring it to you.”

Complicating matters further is yet a new equity requirement the state introduced on Sunday. According to the Kern public health department, the health equity metric divides a county by census tracts, requiring the best-performing area’s positivity rates to differ by no more than 1 percent compared to the lowest-performing area. In order to keep moving down the tiered system, counties will need to reduce the disparity by 10 percent in six weeks.

“They want areas that have higher testing positivity to be given additional resources to try to help those that perhaps live in areas that have higher rates,” Constantine said.

In Kern County, Constantine said the difference between positivity rates in different census tracts was 6.5 percent, meaning the county has work to do in order to close the gap.

Some supervisors spoke out against the state, once again, changing the requirements counties must meet to reopen businesses.

“It is quite clear that someone, or some group in Sacramento, is thinking of new ways they want to tweak the world, and what results they would like to see in our society and culture, and they are loading that into these metrics we are receiving,” Supervisor Mike Maggard said. “It just points out the complete arbitrary nature and unfairness of the process, that (the governor) is causing now us to be measured by circumstances that are completely beyond our control. And he knows, the governor knows, they are beyond our control.”

Supervisors voted 4-0, with Leticia Perez absent, to direct the County Administrative Office to draft a resolution chastising the governor’s changes in metrics and demanding the state base business reopening on overall case rate and positivity rate.

“It just continues to give us all a sense of frustration and feeling defeated that we’re never going to get out of this if you keep changing the rules,” Supervisor Zack Scrivner said during the meeting. “We should be allowing restaurants to open to some extent, churches, gyms, et cetera.”

The county’s hospital capacity, which was previously a metric by which the state judged counties’ ability to reopen, has been doing well, the county health department noted. As of Tuesday, the department said 18 people are in intensive care units with COVID-19, with 67 total hospitalized. There are 47 available ICU beds should the need arise.

You can reach Sam Morgen at 661-395-7415. You may also follow him on Twitter @smorgenTBC.

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I’m waiting Stephen....


Maybe this from the Science Council will help Veritas grasp the concept: Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence. Scientific methodology includes the following: Objective observation: Measurement and data (possibly although not necessarily using mathematics as a tool)

This doesn't include skewing data to suit an ideological preference as the administration tends to do. Or, as the president of the United States does on a daily basis, lie (See direct quotes in another commentators post)


Thank you SC Pres, for voluntarily exposing you and your leftist clutch. I intimately know the definition of Science. You on the other hand have proven time and again that you cannot follow the Objective observation part. Let me know if you wish to banter further about your lack of objectivity.... Again, as you have historically proven, you won’t respond...


Well, cojones faltantes you are a straight out liar. Governors in the USA have all the power during a public health crisis, such as a pandemic, not the Feds. Don’t believe me, look it up on any credible legal information site. You really exposed yourself this time.... I would call you an idiot but you already did that for me...


“I’m going to put it very simply: The president of the United States has the authority to do what the president has the authority to do, which is very powerful. The president of the United States calls the shots.”

— Trump, in a task force briefing, arguing falsely that the president — and not governors — has the power to decide when states would lift stay-at-home orders and other restrictions. A day later he’d say that he planned to leave the decision about how and when to open individual states to governors.


The Independent Voter



August 1

“Wrong! We have more cases because we have tested far more than any other country, 60,000,000. If we tested less, there would be less cases,” (Donald Trump in a retweet of Anthony Fauci saying the U.S. has seen more cases than European countries because it only shut down a fraction of its economy amid the pandemic)

August 3

"I think we are doing very well and I think ... as well as any nation,"

August 3

"They are dying. That's true. And you — it is what it is.”

August 3


August 3

“Right now I think it’s under control.”

August 3

“You know, there are those that say you can test too much, you do know that.”

August 4

"...we have among the lowest numbers." - White House Press Briefing

August 5

“If you look at children, children are almost - and I would almost say definitely - but almost immune from this disease.” August 5

“It will go away like things go away”

August 6

U.S. death toll passes 160,000

August 12

U.S. reports highest number of COVID-19 deaths in one day since mid-May

August 16

U.S. death toll passes 170,000 Trump has gone from downplaying the risk early on, to overselling the availability of test kits, to encouraging strict social distancing measures, to questioning whether those measures were causing too much economic and emotional pain. He has claimed "total" authority and then insisted it's really up to the states to manage the response.

As the message from public health experts became increasingly dire, Trump often accentuated the positive, saying he was trying to give Americans hope.

Although Trump's partial ban on travelers from China is seen by many as having bought time for the U.S. to prepare, coronavirus testing failures obscured the severity of the outbreak here and hampered efforts to contain its spread. By the time the deadly scope of the virus came into focus, it was too late for containment, and mitigation shutdowns brought a heavy economic toll. “We only have five people. Hopefully, everything’s going to be great. They have somewhat of a problem, but hopefully, it’s all going to be great. But we’re working with China, just so you know, and other countries very, very closely. So it doesn’t get out of hand. But it’s, you know, it’s something that we have to be very, very careful with, right? We have to be very careful.”

— Trump, at a campaign rally in Des Moines, Iowa “I want to emphasize that this is a serious health situation in China, but I want to emphasize that the risk to the American public currently is low.”

— CDC Director Robert Redfield, at a coronavirus task force briefing

“We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

— Trump, in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, when asked how concerned he was about the coronavirus

“We are coordinating with the Chinese government and working closely together on the coronavirus outbreak in China. My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from this threat.”

— Trump, in his State of the Union address “Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. I hope that’s true. But we’re doing great in our country. China, I spoke with President Xi, and they’re working very, very hard. And I think it’s going to all work out fine.”

“In our country, we only have, basically, 12 cases and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered. So it’s actually less.”

— Trump, in an interview with Geraldo Rivera

“Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. … One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.’ That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over. … And this is their new hoax.”

“Gallup just gave us the highest rating ever for the way we are handling the CoronaVirus situation. The April 2009-10 Swine Flu, where nearly 13,000 people died in the U.S., was poorly handled.”

— Trump tweet. At the end of March, his approval rating would rise to a high point of his presidency, though a “rally-around-the-flag effect” was relatively small and has faded some.

“Anybody that wants a test can get a test. That’s what the bottom line is.”

— Trump, while visiting CDC headquarters in Atlanta. This was false. In fact, at this time testing capacity was about 75,000 nationally, according to the CDC. “This was unexpected. … And it hit the world. And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”

— Trump, to reporters at the U.S. Capitol “The vast majority of Americans, the risk is very, very low.”

— Trump, in an Oval Office address to the nation. He restricts travel from most of Europe, but also causes confusion about trade from the bloc.

“My administration is recommending that all Americans, including the young and healthy, work to engage in schooling from home when possible. Avoid gathering in groups of more than 10 people. Avoid discretionary travel. And avoid eating and drinking at bars, restaurants and public food courts. If everyone makes … these critical changes and sacrifices now, we will rally together as one nation and we will defeat the virus. And we’re going to have a big celebration all together. With several weeks of focused action, we can turn the corner and turn it quickly.”

— Trump, in announcing his social distancing guidelines

— Trump, at a campaign rally in North Charleston, S.C.

— Trump, at a campaign rally in Manchester, N.H. “We’re getting rid of this virus. That’s what we’re doing. That’s the best thing we can do. By the way, for the markets, for everything — it’s very simple, very simple solution. We want to get rid of it. We want to have very — as few deaths as possible. This is a horrible thing.”

— Trump, in a task force briefing “America will again, and soon, be open for business — very soon — a lot sooner than three or four months that somebody was suggesting. A lot sooner. We cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself. We’re not going to let the cure be worse than the problem.”

— Trump, at a task force briefing

“Easter is a very special day for me. And I see it sort of in that timeline that I’m thinking about. And I say, wouldn’t it be great to have all of the churches full?”

— Trump, in a Fox News interview

“The sacrifices we make over the next four weeks will have countless American lives saved. We’re going to save a lot of American lives.”

— Trump, in a task force briefing “It’s going to be, really, a voluntary thing. You can do it. You don’t have to do it. I’m choosing not to do it, but some people may want to do it, and that’s OK. It may be good. Probably will. They’re making a recommendation. It’s only a recommendation.”

— Trump, in a task force briefing where he announced the face mask recommendation “This will be probably the toughest week, between this week and next week. And there’ll be a lot of death, unfortunately, but a lot less death than if this wasn’t done. But there will be death.”

“We have a big decision to make at a certain point, OK? We have a big decision to make. We went this extra period of time. But I’ve said it from the beginning: The cure cannot be worse than the problem itself.”

— Trump, in a task force briefing “The cases really didn’t build up for a while. But you have to understand, I’m a cheerleader for this country. I don’t want to create havoc and shock and everything else, but ultimately, when I was saying that, I’m also closing it down. I obviously was concerned about it because I closed down our country to China.”

— Trump, in a task force briefing, when asked about “downplaying the threat of coronavirus” early on

— Trump, in the same briefing


"The President got bored with it," Dave Carney, a longtime Republican strategist "It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control," the king said in January. "It's going to be just fine." "When you have 15 people. And the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done," the king said in February. "The President of the United States calls the shots," the king said at a coronavirus briefing in mid-April regarding the resistance among some governors to begin reopening their states. "They can't do anything without the approval of the President of the United States." “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!” the king said. "This will be the biggest national security threat you face in your presidency...This is going to be the roughest thing you face" The king's National Security Advisor to the king. "The lack of immune protection or an existing cure or vaccine would leave Americans defenseless in the case of a full-blown coronavirus outbreak on US soil,...This lack of protection elevates the risk of the coronavirus evolving into a full-blown pandemic, imperiling the lives of millions of Americans.” in a memo to the king from Navarro. “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.” the king said. “It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu... This is deadly stuff” the king said on tape to Woodward. “I think the virus is going to be—it’s going to be fine.” the king said. “Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.” from IV and Veritas king. From the IV and Veritas King, “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.” Veritas king again. “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.” the king said in February. “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.” again in february. “We're going very substantially down, not up.” February veritas king quote. “Well, we're testing everybody that we need to test. And we're finding very little problem. Very little problem.”

February 26

"This is a flu. This is like a flu." February 27

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” March 2

“You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?” March 2

“A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”

March 4

“Now, and this is just my hunch, and — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. Because a lot people will have this and it's very mild.” March 4

“If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”

March 5

“The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!” March 6

“I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”

March 6

March 6

“Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”

March 6

“I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.” March 6

“I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”

March 7

“When we get into April, in the warmer weather—that has a very negative effect on that, and that type of a virus.”

March 7

“No, I’m not concerned at all.

March 8

“We have a perfectly coordinated and fine-tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.” March 9

“This blindsided the world.”

March 10

“Just stay calm. It will go away.”

March 11

“It goes away….It’s going away. We want it to go away with very, very few deaths.” March 12

"You know, you see what's going on. And so I just wanted that to stop as it pertains to the United States. And that's what we've done. We've stopped it."

March 13

“I don’t take responsibility at all.”

“You have to be calm. It’ll go away.” March 14

“I’d rate it a ten,” [Trump’s rating of his coronavirus response]

March 15


March 15

“This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”

March 16

“Respirators, ventilators, all of the equipment-try getting it yourselves,”

March 17

“The only thing we haven’t done well is get good press.”

March 17

“I felt like it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”

March 19

I intended "to always play it down.” [Trump in a private taped interview with Bob Woodward, made public September 9] March 22


March 24

“I'm also hopeful to have Americans working again by that Easter - that beautiful Easter day.” March 25

“The faster we go back, the better it’s going to be.” March 30

"Stay calm, it will go away. You know it -- you know it is going away, and it will go away, and we're going to have a great victory." March 30

“I haven’t heard about testing in weeks. We’re testing more than any other nation in the world. We’ve got these great tests...But I haven’t heard about testing being a problem.”

March 30

“We inherited a broken test — the whole thing was broken.” April 6

April 7

"So, you know, things are happening. It's a -- it's -- I haven't seen bad. I've not seen bad." April 9

“I couldn’t have done it any better,” [When asked if his coronavirus response could have been better] April 13

“But I guess I'm doing OK, because, to the best of my knowledge, I'm the President of the United States, despite the things that are said."

April 14

“Enough!” [When a reporter questioned his claim that his authority as president is “total”]

April 14

“[w]hen somebody’s the president of the United States, the authority is total.” April 19

“Now we’re going toward 50, I’m hearing, or 60,000 people [dead from the coronavirus]”

April 22

“If [coronavirus] comes back though, it won’t be coming back in the form that it was, it will be coming back in smaller doses that we can contain….it’s also possible it doesn’t come back at all.”

April 23

"I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."

April 23

“So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way…”

April 23

April 29

“It’s gonna go away, this is going to go away.”

May 3

May 5

“There’ll be more death, that the virus will pass, with or without a vaccine. And I think we’re doing very well on the vaccines but, with or without a vaccine, it’s going to pass, and we’re going to be back to normal,”

May 5

“I don’t want to be Mr. Gloom-and-Doom. It’s a very bad subject,...I’m not looking to tell the American people when nobody really knows what’s happening yet, ‘Oh, this is going to be so tragic.’” May 8

“This is going to go away without a vaccine. It is going to go away. We are not going to see it again.”

May 9

“This is going to go away without a vaccine.”

May 11

“Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere. Big progress being made!”

May 11

“We have met the moment and we have prevailed,”

May 14

“Could be that testing’s, frankly, overrated. Maybe it is overrated.”

May 14

“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing,”

May 15

“Vaccine or no vaccine, we’re back. And we’re starting the process. In many cases, they don’t have vaccines and a virus or a flu comes and you fight through it.

May 16

“We’ve done a GREAT job on Covid response, making all Governors look good, some fantastic (and that’s OK), but the Lamestream Media doesn’t want to go with that narrative, and the Do Nothing Dems talking point is to say only bad about “Trump”. I made everybody look good, but me!” May 19

“When we have a lot of cases, I don't look at that as a bad thing, I look at that as, in a certain respect, as being a good thing,...Because it means our testing is much better. I view it as a badge of honor, really, it's a badge of honor.” June 15

“At some point this stuff goes away and it’s going away.”

June 17

“It’s fading away. It’s going to fade away.”

June 18

“And it is dying out. The numbers are starting to get very good.”

June 20

"Testing is a double-edged sword,...When you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people, you're going to find more cases, so I said to my people, 'Slow the testing down, please.'" June 23

“Cases are going up in the U.S. because we are testing far more than any other country, and ever expanding. With smaller testing we would show fewer cases!”

June 23

"It's going away,"

June 25

“The number of ChinaVirus cases goes up, because of GREAT TESTING, while the number of deaths (mortality rate), goes way down. The Fake News doesn’t like telling you that!”

June 25

“Coronavirus deaths are way down. Mortality rate is one of the lowest in the World. Our Economy is roaring back and will NOT be shut down. “Embers” or flare ups will be put out, as necessary!” July 1

“I think we’re going to be very good with the coronavirus.” “I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of disappear, I hope.”

July 6

U.S. death toll passes 130,000

July 7

"I think we are in a good place."

July 7

The president predicted that in the next two to four weeks, "I think we're going to be in very good shape." July 19

“I think we have one of the lowest mortality rates in the world”

July 19

“Many of those cases are young people that would heal in a day”

“They have the sniffles, and we put it down as a test”

July 21

"You will never hear this on the Fake News concerning the China Virus, but by comparison to most other countries, who are suffering greatly, we are doing very well - and we have done things that few other countries could have done!”

July 27

"America will develop a vaccine very soon, and we will defeat the virus. We will have it delivered in record time."

“Look, we're going to lose anywhere from 75,000, 80,000 to 100,000 people,”

“You see states are starting to open up now, and it’s very exciting to see,”


Gene Pool Chlorinator

Wow, you get the award for the Biggest Waste of Space post today.

You know, copying and pasting doesn't equate to intelligence, right??


This is what happens under ridiculous socialist rules. Do you idiots see how dumb this is? It's all about testing, so lets just waste money on pointless testing so that we can churn up the numbers to open up. Forget about real data. It's all about fighting idiocy with idiocy. Open up already. There is no problem and never has been. Of WTF importance is a test? Are you going to live your life differently after the test? The only test of importance is the antibody test. PLEASE stop the insanity!


Referring to recent statements by Kevin "my Kevin" McCarthy as, joining the president, panders to the least informed among us raged against the perceived discrimination against churches when he decried opening restaurants but not churches. Far from the "war on religion" the rabid right imagines, the comparison is apples and oranges. You don't join the rest of the people present and sing in restaurants. In church, singing is a major component of worship.

We need to ignore and dismiss the ignorance expressed by the president and his enablers and pay attention to the science, as ideologically and emotionally unpleasant as it may be.

The Independent Voter

And so you, Stephen, nominate yourself amongst the best informed? Heh.


Define Science for me Stephen of the SC. I am curious as to your answer, if you will answer...

The Independent Voter

They never answer, Veritas. I've tried repeatedly to get answers to specific questions.

Darwin's Bulldog

As a man of science, and possessing the esteemed Oxford English Dictionary, I submit this definition: “A branch of study which is concerned either with a connected body of demonstrated truths or with observed facts systematically classified and more or less colligated by being brought under general laws, and which includes trustworthy methods for the discovery of new truths within its own domain.” Science is a structured process which allows us to get a better understanding of the world we live in and how it all works. It’s actually very cool.

“Science is simply common sense at its best, that is, rigidly accurate in observation, and merciless to fallacy in logic” - T.H. Huxley

Gene Pool Chlorinator

Coming from someone that leads the local group of tree worshipers, I can almost forgive your ignorance with the "perceived discrimination against churches" comment.

If you actually attended church, you'd know that your "Guv" didn't allow singing- which is actually fine with me because I can't carry a tune in a backpack...

Therefore, there is no reason people shouldn't be allowed to practice their Constitutionally protected rights- you're probably more at risk shopping in a big box store (which has always been allowed, btw), or refilling your drink at a fast food establishment (yes I'm aware that it's not "allowed", but I've seen it done many times), than you would be attending church sans song, wearing a mask, and social distancing... SMH

The Independent Voter

Music to my ears, GPC! Bless you!


This is ridiculous KC, open this bi-atch up!!!!!

The Independent Voter

Why contribute to the governor's insanity? The only goal here is to inflate the number of cases so that further lockdown measures can be implemented. If I was a county worker, they could keep their time off. Under no circumstances will *I* subject myself to a test - particularly when I have no reason to take one.

Normal Guy

This policy isn’t to keep Kern locked up, it’s to open Kern. The only way to hit the near impossible moving goals is to test healthy people in mass. The county supervisors realize this and those of us in favor of opening should be encouraging healthy people to test daily. Ridiculous it’s necessary but likely the only way to hit the target.

Masked 2020

that is a problem......the fish rots from the head down -----Washington — President Trump doubled down on his recent comments about ordering his administration to slow down coronavirus testing, contradicting several White House officials who defended his remarks by claiming they were made in jest. During a campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on Saturday, Mr. Trump said, "When you do testing to that extent you're going to find more people, you're going to find cases. So I said to my people, 'Slow the testing down, please.' They test and they test. We got tests for people who don't know what's going on."


Okay, so lets offer incentives to people to test that have no symptoms just to meet an unreachable and uneccesary quota set by emperor Newsom.

The Independent Voter

So ridiculous! Typical nonsense from the state and county.


You tool for the left. I'm sick of 'doubling down.' Can you come up with your own term please? Doubling down is liberal code speak for "the president won't admit that he's and idiot." I challenge you to find a quote in the last 3 months where a person OTHER than Trump is said to be "doubling down." Idiot.

Gene Pool Chlorinator

@aspidites: This is what you have with a poster that continues to copy and paste everything- often multiple times, even when it has no bearing on the story.

You might as well be arguing with a bumper sticker when it comes to "Masked 2020", or Yorkies, or whatever other handle they are using concurrently...

Don't waste your time- I've quit feeding the troll and I suggest everyone else do the same...

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